{"id":240,"date":"2024-11-16T18:05:32","date_gmt":"2024-11-16T18:05:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/?p=240"},"modified":"2024-11-18T19:33:36","modified_gmt":"2024-11-18T19:33:36","slug":"the-plateau-powerhouse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/2024\/11\/16\/the-plateau-powerhouse\/","title":{"rendered":"Decoupling of scales and the plateau"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>It is a well known fact that LLMs will reach multiple plateaus during their development. Right about now there should be one. Even Bill Gates is talking about it. Even Yan LeCun. (look it up on X). Altough, to be honest, I&#8217;m not really counting LeCun as an expert here. He&#8217;s more like a Mike Tyson of the field ( What? Too much? Too Early? \ud83d\ude42 )<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This time, the reason behind these plateaus is not the lack of technology (as it was the case with previous AI waves (50s, 80s  &#8211; the LeCun Era &#8211; 2000s).<br>This time, the reason is extremely profound and extremely close to humans.  It is concerning an interesting aspect of epistemology: the decoupling of scales issue.<br>What this means is, in a nutshell is, that you cannot use an emergent level as an indicator for an underlying reality without stopping on the road and gathering mode data (experiments and observations) , and redoing your models entirely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My argument is that our models, now, at best, they do clever &#8220;Unhobbing&#8221; (a basic feedbackloop that somewhat emulates a train of tought by iterating answers)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have not yet seen, at all a real bake-in of a new &#8220;underlying  reality model&#8221;. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t care about AGI, and when or if we will truly reach general intelligence! I care about the fact that <strong>we are very <\/strong>far away from drawing the real benefits out of these LLMs. We have not yet even battled the first plateau. And there are many coming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Powerhouse<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Lots of discussions happening right now in relation to what people call nowadays #AI. Some sterile, some insightful, some driven by fear, some driven by enthusiasm, some driven by alcohol \ud83d\ude0a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am defining the \u201cpowerhouse\u201d as being that technology that allows us to create the most value. In industry, in sales, in research, in general :). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this light, during the\ninformation age, the one we are <strong>just barely<\/strong> scratching the surface of, there\nwere multiple powerhouses that we can remember and talk about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The internet and the communication age powerhouse for example, that we have not yet exhausted. Not by far, in terms of potential productivity. This is something that we can understand easily. It\u2019s not worth going into details here.<br><\/li><li>The data-churn powerhouse. The ability to store, look-through, transform and stream data. I would argue that this is also easily understandable. However, we may stop a bit here and make a few points:<br><ul><li>Transforming data and searching data, big data, involves something very resemblant to intelligence. It is not for nothing that we have a certain area of data exploration that is called business \u201cintelligence\u201d. This though could be one of the first serious encounters with #AI. It is so long ago, that most people don\u2019t even bother to call this #AI, although it is very #AI\ud83d\ude0a<\/li><li>Big data is the foundation of unsupervised learning models, so, Let\u2019s not forget about this.<br><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li>The computer vision capabilities are somewhat taken for granted. Things like OCR, or face recognition (not identification).<br><\/li><li>Then there is a generation of computer vision that really produces value, things like medical assisting software (for echo imaging, CT, MRI, and other types of imaging). You know, this is still #AI, some in the form of clever algorithms, some supervised learning, and some unsupervised learning. I think about this as yet another powerhouse.<br><\/li><li>Then, there is despotic computer vision, things like face identification that can, and is really used at scale. We know about the use in China but let me tell you something about that: it is used the same here also. We\u2019re just more discrete about it. And yes, I see this as yet another powerhouse. I know. Too many versions of the computer vision one. <br><\/li><li>Another interesting powerhouse is the expansion of the same level of capabilities in other domains:  &#8211; drug repurposing, voice synthetization, clever localization, etc.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>All of this is #AI at\nits best. We basically off-load parts of our human intelligence to machines\nthat can scale certain cognitive processes better than us, and that are more equipped\nwhen it comes to sensors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We now have a new type\nof \u201cpowerhouse\u201d, we refer to it as LLMs. Some of the value prolific applications\nare becoming apparent right about now. Bear in mind that this is only the beginning.\nThere is a whole new class of problems that can now become part of the\ninformation age. Many of these problems are not even known to us right now.\nThis is happening because the link between humans and these artificial\ncreations is now more intimate. It is language itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have, basically,\nspent this short time that we have spent in the information age to:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>teach\ncomputers to do calculations for us \ud83d\ude0a<\/li><li>teach\ncomputers to remember<\/li><li>teach\ncomputers to communicate<\/li><li>teach computers\nto read<\/li><li>teach\ncomputers to see<\/li><li>teach\ncomputers to speak<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>None of these leaps were\ngiven up upon, they are all being accumulated in the problems that we solve\nusing computers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LLMs aren\u2019t going anywhere. I promise you that, They are just bringing up possibilities. So, hearing all kinds of &#8220;informed opinions&#8221; stating that there is a great difference between expectations and reality with this advent of LLMs, and this is bad news for the entire industry is bull$hit.<br>Real bull$hit, not different than the one I expect it to be \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cheers!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is a well known fact that LLMs will reach multiple plateaus during their development. Right about now there should be one. Even Bill Gates is talking about it. Even Yan LeCun. (look it up on X). Altough, to be honest, I&#8217;m not really counting LeCun as an expert here. He&#8217;s more like a Mike &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/2024\/11\/16\/the-plateau-powerhouse\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Decoupling of scales and the plateau&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[85,86,64],"tags":[83,87,75,84],"class_list":["post-240","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ai","category-epistemology","category-ethics","tag-ai","tag-epistemology","tag-llm","tag-ml"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paDECb-3S","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/240","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=240"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/240\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":243,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/240\/revisions\/243"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=240"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=240"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/who.ioanpopovici.ro\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=240"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}